Clegg’s lack of basic economics - George Irvin
Speaking to John Humphrys on the Today programme a few days ago (24 June), Nick Clegg sounded particularly uncomfortable dealing with the verdict of the Institute of Fiscal Studies that the budget would hit the poor harder than the rich.
But Clegg's economic illiteracy revealed itself most clearly when he declared that the budget pain was absolutely necessary. In its absence, said Clegg, Britain would be paying £7bn per annum in debt service, a sum which would place an intolerable and unfair burden on our children for a generation.
I shan't quibble about the fact that £7bn is only half of one percent of current GDP, and that the austerity caused by this budget will on the Government's own reckoning reduce potential output growth by more than this. Indeed, according to David Blanchflower, the cuts will almost certainly bring about a double dip recession next year. The key question is whether running public sector deficit places a burden on future generations?
Nick Clegg repeatedly referred to the Greek debt crisis as an example of what might happen if we fail to make cuts. However, it is vital to understand that Britain is not like Greece in two important respects. First, the UK retains its own currency and Central Bank and thus the power to set interest rates, influence the exchange rate and so on. Secondly---and this is the key point---most public borrowing takes place within the UK, which has a large domestic secondary market for government bonds and other financial instruments.
When the UK Treasury borrows money, it sells bonds to the non-bank public; ie, to you and me. Such bonds appear on the government's books as a liability but on our books as an asset. Far from burdening our children with debt, when we (or our pension fund managers) buy government bonds, we are acquiring an asset which can be passed on to our children---plus the income stream which the asset pays out. Clegg's answer would certainly not get him through an undergraduate economics exam.
Of course, other conservative (with a small ‘c') politicians usually produce somewhat more sophisticated answers. For example, George Osborne regularly argues that increased government borrowing will drive up interest rates, thus ‘crowding out' private investment. This argument fails on two counts. Under present circumstances, the Bank of England can keep medium and long term interest rates down through quantitative easing, as indeed it has done in the recent past. But even allowing that borrowing raises interest rates, such a rise would need to lead to ‘full crowding out' for the argument to be correct. In economists' jargon, Britain's aggregate supply curve would need to be perfectly inelastic for full crowding out to occur.
Indeed, only a very few (and very conservative) economists believe that private sector investment is low because interest rates are too high. Most economists believe the opposite; namely, that the private sector is not investing because the effectiveness of interest rates is limited by the ‘liquidity trap'; in reality it is effective demand which is too low. As the case of Japan in the early 1990s shows clearly, even zero nominal interest rates cannot get an economy out of recession. What is needed in the sort of public spending which will ‘crowd in' private investment; ie, spending on new, better and greener economic and social infrastructure.
The ultimate refuge of the conservative politician is ‘Ah, but if we don't reign in public spending we will be attacked like Greece'. This argument has gained much traction in continental Europe, particularly on the centre-right in Germany. Again, the argument is hollow.
In the short term, the Greek crisis could have been avoided had the European Central Bank continued to buy Greek bonds regardless of their down-rating by the agencies. The very act of keeping the ECB window open would have greatly dampened speculative short selling, avoiding the disastrous fall in Greek bond prices. Most important, Britain is not Greece----its bond maturities are much longer that those of Greece and it hardly depends on foreign bond purchases. Indeed, because tax receipts have recently been rising, the Treasury has been able to cancel several planned bond auctions.
The real lesson of Clegg's ‘Today' interview is that although he may be ‘liberal to the core' as he insists, either his economic views are rooted in the orthodoxies of the post-Thatcher era, or he is playing the Merkel ‘frugal housewife' card for cynical political gain. Either way, the views he currently espouses on the budget do him little credit.
George Irvin
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on 17 July 2010, 12:05:42 PM
on 17 July 2010, 12:03:03 PM
on 17 July 2010, 10:58:02 AM
I agree. Saying that there shouldn't be cuts makes them sound silly and childish.
But as their own spending priorities involved lots of wars and bullying the sick off benefits I don't know if I want to hear any more from any of them ever.
on 17 July 2010, 10:39:52 AM
Defending working class living standards, the level of employment and essential public services in the name of Keynesianism, won't get us very far. Clearly there is a credit credibility problem for the UK and a fear of converting bust into boom, somewhere down the line. It's not all about demand management, it is about structure and key social and political issues.
So shouldn't we on the Left have our own detailed and thought-through agenda for cuts which we should campaign for ? Our cuts versus their cuts. The much mentioned Trident system and other 'defence' expenditure should only be the start of our list. We could go on and look at all aspects of society to determine where desirable cuts could be made. The prison system, the extended royal family, tax evasion and so on. Somebody, somewhere must surely have begun such a list.
on 17 July 2010, 8:39:50 AM
Because continued high levels of government spending is largely irrelevant in this situation to domestic and external demand, doesnt mean that I support the Coalition cuts. It is true that the public debt has to be repaid otherwise confidence in the UK economy will sink even lower than it is now. (The same is true in the US, but Obama has no way of repaying the debt anyway). But as I have said many times before, the correct approach is to debate the entire public expenditure programme. It is the act of a total fool to cut social spending while Britain has the second largest military budget in the world. The public investment programme is full of slush, but it is precisely the slush that the ESTABLISHMENT (whether Newlabour or Tory/Lib-Dem) is determined to maintain. Both Newlabour and the government lie to the people constantly about public spending, and we sit there being lied to and mutter into our tea.
Mr Irvin's ideas are irrelevant to this debate, are are typical of a post-Friedman monetarist with a touch of campari progressivism. The reality is that there is no stark difference between Newlabour and Coalition economic policy. Newlabour would have ended up doing very similar things under different labels. Its all to do with marketing, not policy. Neither group has anything other than neo-liberal goobledygook to guide them. You and I know that there are socialist alternatives. SHRIEK !!! Someone said "socialist"!!!...just like Obama !!! (Americans think Obama is a socialist !!) The mediocrity of those in public office both in Britain and the USA is truly stunning. Our leaders are the political equivalents of Bluebottle from the Goonshow.
on 17 July 2010, 8:00:31 AM
Economic literacy is about knowing the various competing economic theories. Knowing and understanding them in their complexity doesn't tell us what policies are appropriate to our present, or any other, situation. The dismal science is not only more dismal than ever, it is even less of a science. It is really. a matter of politics and ideology. The present coalition government is united in its leadership in a common commitment to neoliberalism. The potential division in its ranks is within the two political parties, rather than between them. The class bias of neoliberalism is very clear to those of us who are familiar with the struggle for survival of the sick and disabled and their carers. It was when New Labour formed the government. Now the coalition are extending the campaign to make the working class generally pay for the crisis caused by the neoliberal policy of facilitating profit maximisation. The bankers, speculators, tax evaders and the rest have been bailed out by the state, which they affect to despise so much. Now they are determined to reduce the key services on which so many depend.
Who among the Labour leadership contenders promises to lead the opposition to this assault on working class living standards, after renouncing the neoliberalism of New Labour ? John McDonnell would have done, if the gatekeepers in the PLP and the NEC had allowed him to stand. Dianne Abbott seems to be the only acceptable alternative remaining.
on 16 July 2010, 9:49:51 PM
on 10 July 2010, 3:02:24 PM
Have a look at moneynewsdotcom
'The U.S. economy is in the “early stages” of a depression, one which will be much more severe than the Great Depression, Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman warns.'
on 09 July 2010, 11:12:33 PM
What interests me is why no-one on the thinking Left appears to have taken up the ideas of the neo-Ricardian economists, people like Fred Harrison, who have been calling for a radical reform of the land rent laws - Harrison even predicted the crisis of 2008 sometime in advance (it wasn't just Roubini!)
Martin Wolf discusses the issue in todays Financial Times, and Harrison's website lays out some of the ideas clearly.
Are any of the candidates for the Labour leadership engaging with these ideas or are we in for just a warmed over neo-liberalist agenda, yet again?
renegadeeconomist(dot)com
on 05 July 2010, 11:49:48 AM
on 03 July 2010, 1:25:04 PM
No less important than the Lib Dem position on the economy is how it is ‘sold’ to the long-suffering middle income and lower than middle-income earner and voter. Vivid and cogent as George Irvin’s economic appraisal is, Clegg and his colleagues are in effect selling how they intend to deal with the economic crisis on the backs of all of those who are paraded as scapegoats and otherwise black sheep, because they receive certain types of benefit, and now almost by definition are being declared, ‘the undeserving poor,’ if not actually public pariah’s.
Three times John Humphries asked why the poorest 10% of the population should have to pay anything towards resolving an economic crisis they did not create. Humphries might also have added, did not significantly benefit by when what is now a bust, was a boom. Pressed hard and frequently by Humphries on the impact of the VAT increase, all Clegg could do was find weasel words between ducking and diving.
A point Clegg made and one worth considering by neo-liberals who disagree with him and the Coalition, is that some additional £44b unfounded cuts were found in the ‘new labour’ undergrowth.
George Irvin and others who accept the neo-liberal settlement and are prepared to broadly dispute with Capital, the Tories and the Lib Dems within it, very reasonably express fears about avoiding a double dip recession. Such a thing would no doubt be something like a catastrophe. It would not only impoverish many on middle and lower than middle incomes whom the neo-liberal parties are anxious to placate and keep on side, it would also begin to lap at the economic standing and social status of the elite, opinion giving political and cultural strata, who earn substantially more than the average income; and are not untypically members of householders were there are two earners each on substantially more than an average income.
There are times when it seems that the only difference between the political and cultural elites is how strong they think to be the likelihood of a double dip recession. For the majority of the population however, the cuts in the economy and society without a double dip to the recession are going to be hard enough to endure as things stand.
on 02 July 2010, 10:49:24 AM
The most obvious alternative narrative currently is neo-Keynsian, but it doesn't necessarily provide the long-term answers. A neo-Marxist understanding may be more enlightening in the long run.
on 02 July 2010, 10:16:15 AM
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