After expenses, welfare reform must be examined says Carola Becker
While the public shaming of MPs over expense claims continues, some of their more petty deeds remain hidden. Revelations of ministers who claimed thousands of pounds for interest on mortgages they had already paid off have sparked widespread anger. A lesser-known fact is that, under social security regulations passed in January, help with mortgage interest payments for the unemployed will stop after two years.
But this is the real insult. In a note to the Social Security Advisory Committee (SSAC), the Government explains: "The two-year time limit for JSA [jobseekers allowance] claims is an essential measure to ensure customers are clear about what is expected of them by way of meeting their responsibilities to find work."
While ministers have been shameless in claiming generous amounts for their second homes, hapless "jobseekers" (including, from next year, single mothers with children under the age of seven), will be living under the threat of having their only home repossessed - for no better reason than to put them under extra pressure to find a job.
Passing this legislation was no more difficult than filing a second home expense claim. This is how it works. Usually, social security regulations have to be referred to the SSAC for comment and consultations, and then to Parliament, before they can become law. However, under an "urgency" provision in the Social Security Administration Act 1992, ministers can bypass these democratic measures if they appear "inexpedient". The regulations can then become law before the SSAC gets to comment on them - and without ever being debated in parliament.
What is the nature of this "urgency"? It's the economy, stupid. The same economic crisis that makes long-term unemployment and poverty a virtual certainty for many has also provided the Government with the justification it needed to bring in further welfare cuts.
And there may be more ticking time bombs in the corridors of power. The latest Welfare Reform Bill, which legalises "workfare", forced drug testing for addicts and compulsory therapy for the sick backed by "sanctions" for non-compliance, received its second reading in the House of Lords just days before the MPs' expenses scandal broke.
It was criticised for being one of the vaguest ever bills presented to peers, because it contains phrases such as "regulations may make provision for". In fact, the bill refers to "regulations" an incredible 387 times.
Mental health charity Mind said: "It is difficult to welcome without reservation a bill which leaves many of the details of the proposed reforms to be set out in as yet unpublished regulations."
Baroness Thomas of Winchester summed up the legislation: "It is about taking a power to keep options open later".
Of course, certain safeguards are supposed to be built into the system, including the SSAC - the body set up to guide the Department for Work and Pensions. But the Government, having ticked the appropriate box and "consulted" the SSAC, is then free to ignore its advice. And if that's too controversial, there is still the "urgency" clause, which permits bypassing even this ineffectual safeguard.
While most of the media and much of the public have been supportive of "tightening up" the welfare system to catch the "work shy", it's time to think again. Under regulations that can be passed with little fuss, ministers who have been caught with their hands in our till will have endless power to make further cuts to welfare just when it is most needed. And taxpayers could be none the wiser until they need help from the Government and find it is no longer available.
If there is one thing the expenses scandal should teach us, it is that blind trust in ministers is most unwise. Let's treat politicians' policies with the same scrutiny we are now applying to their expenses claims.
Carola Becker, Tribune
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on 11 June 2009, 4:18:23 PM
The LibDem Lords are wonderful. They explain that the mentally ill can't always follow the 'direction' of benefit advisers to do directed work due to being too ill.
The Minister says - not to worry - for people with mental illness, mental disability, autism and stroke there will be an instruction to read the sanctions out another time before they take the benefit away. That's alright then.
You won't believe what is going on here.
www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=4170
on 11 June 2009, 1:21:58 AM
It even has a Tory Peter Bottomley (showing Transparent Dave what a real compassionate Conservative really is...) but has it got any MPs considered close to Compass?
But remember these names, because when Brown implodes - because all those genuinely concerned about those less fortunate than the majority in the UK certainly will.
And who really benefits more from State aid:
1) The lucky companies who snap up gravy chain contracts - to 'deal with' the mentally ill and long time unemployed etc despite having no relevant background in the field
2) Politicians who when they know that when the game is up they can 'retire' to a board of a company they previously gave contracts to while 'serving' ha! ha! the people. Major's revolting Tories did it and now watch the retreating New Labour former ministers follow suit starting with Patricia Hewitt. (Do that in business - and it would be called insider dealing and you would go to prison. Do it after being in government and you get talked about in the back pages of the Private Eye...
3) Or those on the measly benefits that the right wing middle class so resent contributing towards - wasn't left wing politics meant to be some kind of corrective to that kind of propaganda?
The answer you give, tells a lot about your real politics (much more accurate than vague protestations to being 'progressive' or 'social democratic' once in your long distant youth...
on 10 June 2009, 11:46:45 PM
Early Day Motion
EDM 1609 INCOME SUPPORT 08.06.2009
McDonnell, John
That this House condemns the proposed abolition of income support which is a crucial lifeline against destitution and poverty for parents, carers, those they care for and other vulnerable people; further condemns the requirement contained in the Welfare Reform Bill that claimants with children over seven years old must find a job or work for their benefits for £1.73 an hour if they are unsuccessful in finding work after two years; notes that unemployment has risen to over two million and that many parents cannot access affordable childcare in their area; deplores this erosion of the principles of the welfare state and the minimum wage, and regrets the hardship that many families will now face; and calls on the Government to maintain income support in recognition of society's collective responsibility for childrearing and the important work of carers and parents for society.
Signed so far....
Conservative Party
Bottomley, Peter
Open: 1 Closed: 0
INDEPENDENT
Davies, Dai
Open: 1 Closed: 0
Labour Party
Caton, Martin
Corbyn, Jeremy
Cryer, Ann
Jones, Lynne
McDonnell, John
Riordan, Linda
Open: 6 Closed: 0
Liberal Democrats
Leech, John
Open: 1 Closed: 0
on 10 June 2009, 2:14:54 PM
on 10 June 2009, 12:58:47 PM
I still do not understand why Welfare Reform is not a seen as a major issue for everybody in this country?
I mean by this a real look at what is going on, not the mediahype on benefit scroungers and government spin. The public should look at what is being proposed and carried out in their name and then think what would happen to them and their families if crisis hit.
If such radical proposals were being implemented in any other areas of government policy there would be an outcry.
I believe that many people are deluded by delusions of never having to rely on the Welfare Benefit System. They need to think again before it is to late. Over the past 30 years time and time again I met people in psychiatric hospitals who came out with the words "I DID NOT THINK IT COULD HAPPEN TO ME"
The same scenario should be put to the issues of unemployment, illness, disability accidents etc. It can happen to anybody and then you will have to rely on the Welfare System and it will be found wanting and sure as eggs are eggs the words will be*I DID NOT THINK IT WAS LIKE THIS*.
At the moment it is clearly the agenda going forward that it is everyman for himself, unless it concerns Banks and big business when bailouts, tax evasion and incentives are par for the course.
Best wishes
Paul
on 10 June 2009, 12:11:13 PM
Family carers are exploited without wages for the work they do. Respite ? As an elderly, lone, 24/7 carer, I have yet to experience it.
Never mind. Crypto-Tory New Labour will soon be replaced by authentic Tory nasties, courtesy of our FPTP electoral system. AV ? What a con.
on 10 June 2009, 10:33:54 AM
Anne Milton (Shadow Minister, Health; Guildford, Conservative) | Hansard source
To ask the Secretary of State for Health what estimate he has made of how much of the £150 million allocated to primary care trusts for the purposes of carers' breaks and respite care has been spent on such assistance for carers.
Phil Hope (Minister of State (Care Services; Minister for the East Midlands), Department of Health; Corby, Labour) | Hansard source
Primary care trust (PCT) expenditure on carers' breaks and respite care is not collected centrally. The actual level of spend in each year is for PCTs to decide locally in the light of their local circumstances, and priorities as set out in the NHS Operating Framework and Vital Signs.
Several carers have been contacting their own PCTs’ .....
1 . “”””Your request for information has now been considered. However unfortunately we do not hold the information. To date the Trust cannot identify this allocation. Until it has done so, plans for the utilisation of the funding cannot be completed.
I apologise that your request cannot be met but if you have any further information needs in the future then please contact me. ”””””
This was taken from Oxford paper..
2. “”””New figures from The Princess Royal Trust for Carers indicate Oxfordshire Primary Care Trust (PCT) was given a £519,143 slice of a £150m Government pot for carers services for the financial year 2009-2010.
The money was earmarked to pay for respite care — where carers could take a breather knowing the person they cared for was being looked after.
Carers can apply for the funding at their GPs surgeries.
However, the PCT has admitted it has allocated just £250,000 for carers services this year — half the amount it received from the Government.
A carers group, the local MP and a charity have all called for answers as to where the rest of the Government funding has gone.
But on Tuesday, the PCT could not confirm why the two figures were different. “””””””
Many PCTs’ have failed to reply to requests for information.
£150m sounds like a lot of money.The govt are ‘seen’ to be helping carers.In reality it is just not happening.
What they allocate is NOT being delivered.Phil Hope saying the expenditure details are not handled centrally is negligent.They should be, to ensure the money reaches those it is intended for, or at least ring fence it.
This gives you further insight to the situation faced by carers and those they care for.
Not only do they have to fight some of the proposals in this WR bill but their battles are wide spread too,about respite breaks money,accessing social services,getting equipment,fighting eligibility criteria, which is being tightened even more so by cash strapped councils.
Take all the above in to account, put it on top of their caring roles and then maybe, just maybe, you will understand where we are coming from.
on 10 June 2009, 8:54:04 AM
I agree with Rosemary's comments on Welfare Reform. this government is going for a single working benefit. scrapping all sickness benefits, carers allowances etc
The government through the media launched a 12 year orchestrated campaign to crackdown on the so called "Benefit Scrounger* They have managed to create a whirlwind of hate amongst the working population.
Unfortunately for these so called hard working families, many are going to join the benefit queue in the near future, they will realise many of the old claimants have a story to tell about illness, loss of jobs, lack of opportunities, employers discrimination and they will probably change their views.
They will also see that a life on benefits is often a nightmare of bullying and depression. I have come to the conclusion however this government will not change its policies until there is mass unemployment of the middle classes, a group of people they cannot just brush under the carpet.
Next year there will be huge cuts in public services and many more unemployed. perhaps policies will change as this happens but I would not hold your breadth.
best wishes
Paul
on 09 June 2009, 11:43:25 PM
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Dear Sir,
I believe the main aim of this Welfare reform is to take claimants off any form of sickness benefit at all. Its aim is to put most claimants onto JSA, they may be do it in a devious way by putting claimants onto work focus ESA but the real agenda is job seekers allowance for everybody.
Many people will not even qualfiy for JSA after six months because of occupational pensions etc. You have to look at the long term goal out of this. Short term huge profits for Private Employment Providers, Medium term JSA for claimants or no benefits at all.
It is a con. a new labour/Tory illusion, brought in from good old USA.
Britain and Europe is looking more and more like 1930's Germany, I dread to think what is coming next when all this fails as it almost certainly will.
Best wishes
Paul
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Paul, this Welfare Reform is the 1st step towards the govts (Purnells) long term ‘vision’ of a SWAB, single working age benefit.The vulnerable are being herded like sheep towards JSA and ESA and eventually those 2 benefits will merge too.Income Support and Carers Allowance are under threat,at some point in the future it will be Attendence Allowance and Disability Living Allowance too.
The frightening thing is, that affects are already being felt by some people under the new system.Calls to helplines are increasing on a daily basis.Your dread of what is coming next is real Paul,just it is here now and escalating each day.
What is even more frightening is that the majority of the general public are unaware of what is happening.Who is going to protect them? Who is going to fight for them?
At one time I would have said Labour,they were always seen as the party for the people.Not any more.Just now they are placing what is left of the Welfare system in to a coffin and the way it is going, it will probably be David Cameron that hammers that last nail home.How these people can sleep at night is beyond me.
As much as the contributors here have your beliefs in your politics,some deep rooted and going back a long time ( especially my good friend Dugsie x x ),as much as you all debate each new piece that is posted on Compass, take a step back and for a brief time create your own vision, how do you want to see our country go forward?What
sort of future do you want your children to have? But possibly more importantly,who do you want to deliver it?
I was going to apologise for the simplicity of my comment ,probably even the naivity of it too, but decided against it.It is up to each and everyone of us to take responsibility,for those that are stronger to take care of the weak and to that end I will continue,along with many others,to fight some of the proposals in the WR bill.
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on 09 June 2009, 6:22:58 PM
on 09 June 2009, 6:09:43 PM
I believe the main aim of this Welfare reform is to take claimants off any form of sickness benefit at all. Its aim is to put most claimants onto JSA, they may be do it in a devious way by putting claimants onto work focus ESA but the real agenda is job seekers allowance for everybody.
Many people will not even qualfiy for JSA after six months because of occupational pensions etc. You have to look at the long term goal out of this. Short term huge profits for Private Employment Providers, Medium term JSA for claimants or no benefits at all.
It is a con. a new labour/Tory illusion, brought in from good old USA.
Britain and Europe is looking more and more like 1930's Germany, I dread to think what is coming next when all this fails as it almost certainly will.
Best wishes
Paul
on 09 June 2009, 5:03:06 PM
Its not such a wonderful life on benefits, its actually hell on earth give us a break
on 09 June 2009, 4:04:03 PM
Live now
on 09 June 2009, 3:53:13 PM
on 09 June 2009, 2:40:03 PM
One is the sheer cruelty of bullying and threatening sick people - the ignorance of threatening people with certain mental health conditions - conditions where people have been in the darkest places and they have fought back with support from the NHS and care workers and are now stable - perhaps with expensive medication for life - perhaps with ongoing support to help them help themselves keep free of symptoms. These people try and present their best face to the world and do the best they can. But to a welfare to work provider the better fist they make of things the more it gives him a license to bully them.
People with on going life long medical conditions already know about growing up, taking responsiblity, being realistic and optimistic and keeping safe. Life already taught them the lessons. They do not need boot camp to 'do them good'. Offer them help and let them continue to work at things at their own pace safely. Take sanctions off sick people.
I thought this was a different issue from privatisation but actually it is the same issue. Question - how can you help and support sick people in to jobs and work that helps them when and if it is right for them. Answer - by spending lots of money on supporting them.
Question - how can you get a quick fix and get 80% of them off benefits and in to work at no cost to yourself. Answer you can't.
So how can someone say they can do this and take a contract to do this. Because he's a private contractor who will promise the earth, have no duty of care, come down on the sick with a war of attrition so that he drives them in to hospital, off his patch, back to their families, in to jobs they can't hold or best of all defines them as well and not eligible for ESA at all. Then he takes the money and runs. It's the technique and morals of a private clamper, debt collector, parking warden, double glazing salesman.
And the duty of care? What happened to that?
Privatisation and bullying with no duty of care - it's the same thing.
on 09 June 2009, 2:21:16 PM
4th TUC Social Policy forum: Welfare Reform
The Welfare Reform Bill is the most controversial social security legislation since 1997, and a possible indication of what the next round of welfare state reforms may look like, whichever Party wins the next general election. Reforms such as tougher benefit rules for parents and disabled people, a new 'work for your benefits' scheme and more contracting-out of Jobcentre Plus services have all raised the highest level of trade union concern about benefits policy for several years.
That is why the next TUC Social Policy Forum on Friday 3 July will be entirely devoted to the Welfare Reform Bill. TUC Social Policy Forums are unique in providing a channel for discussions of policy that also pay full attention to associated workplace and industrial issues, and the speakers therefore include experts from both unions and external organisations. The Forum will take place at Congress House at 10.30. Places are free, and you can register using this form or online.
on 09 June 2009, 10:20:42 AM
Now we have New Labour persecuting the unemployed, many of them sick and disabled and , moreover, using the opportunity to advance their privatisation agenda, as they use private companies to force unemployed people through an inhumane regime in pursuit of non-existent jobs at enormous public expense. Replacing Gordon Brown is not the point. The point is surely to replace both New Labour and the Tories with a radical social democratic alternative, based on the humanity which was the motive force behind the establishment of the welfare state.
on 09 June 2009, 10:10:39 AM
Sorry for the spelling and grammar in the post I recently completed. I think it is just about readable.
Best wishes
Paul
on 09 June 2009, 9:53:19 AM
I believe that people who are interested in this subject of Welfare Reform need look no further than the Website INDUS DELTA which is a Private Employment Provider Website. The amounts of money being given by the IAX PAYER to these private companies is ernomous.
They are wanting 50 percent of the money upfront from the government, to introduce these schemes being proposed for the sick and unemployed.
It is a sham to sanction the vulnerable and the sick. Purnell has resigned. Within six months he will probably be on the board of one these companies taking TAX PAYERS MONEY FOR POLICIES HE WAS SO KEEN ALMOST TO OBSESSION TO GET THROUGH.
As for the medical Assessments for people in receipt of ESA/1B such is the lust of this government to reduce the number of claimants and give money to Private Employment Providers and the private company ATOS who employ the doctor for these ,medicals for the Dept of Works and Pensions now have permission to employ NURSES TO COMPLETE THESE
MEDICALS. THES NURSES ARE NOT SPECIALIST NURSES, JUST ONES THAT HAVE HAD
THE 2 DAY COURSE TO HOUND THE SICK.
These policies being imposed now by New Labour did not happen overnight there has been a concerted systematioc demonisation of the sick and disabled over 12 years of New Labour. They have bought or leant on everyone, including doctors, charities, and advice centres.
There are some people with disablilies who did VOLUNTARY NOT FORCED
WANT TO WORK, but they face so much discrimanation in and if a miracle happens within the workplace. Employers do not understand fluctuating conditions and even the ones that do are often under pressure themselves.
MOST EMPLOYERS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN EMPLOYING DISABLED PEOPLE ESPECIALLY THE MENTALLY ILL. THE LARGE EMPLOYERS INCLUDING THE HYPOCRITES OF THE NHS and DWP ARE THE WORST CULPRITS. THEIR PROPAGHAND AND BEHAVIOUR MAKE OUR LIVES MUCH WORSE.
Best wishes
Paul
on 09 June 2009, 9:35:38 AM
Simplify the current ( non ) Benefits Systems.
Remove all those who cannot work ..... the elderly \ the disabled \ the carers .... and then replace all existing pensions \ allowances \ benefits with one simple payment ..... a SOCIAL WAGE ( based on a percentage of the average rate ). At a stroke , 50+ benefits \ allowances disappear along with the mountain of bureaucracy involved including reduction in one benefit if another is claimed .... and no more benefit reduction if said individual can also squeeze in some form of paid work ( let the taxation system then take over ).
As for those who can work , the Government COULD continue it's present Welfare to Work Scheme .... aimed at those ABLE to work .... provided , of course , it's own policy includes incentives to create work rather than to continue to bury it's head in the sand in favour of letting the free market create jobs.
Bottom line ? Protect those who CANNOT work , and continue to pressurise those who CAN .... I cannot see any problems at the ballot box with this new policy.
on 09 June 2009, 9:08:02 AM
On the CarerWatch site there is a place fro Testimonies and people are coming there and generously sharing their experiences. As it is all so new it helps other people to find out how it is workign and the LibDem Lords who are fighting to add amendments to the bill in the Lords say they have found the testimony very helpful.
If you feel like it, Robert, please post about what happens to you on the Carerwatch site. We all wish you well and you never know you may be the first person who posts a story of being treated with respect and being awarded the right outcome.
At the moment it's a bit like the Roman Emporers giving a casual thumbs up or thumbs down. A day out at the Coliseum for them - life and death to the slaves.
on 08 June 2009, 11:33:56 PM
Many groups of people who receive benefits are having harsher regimes imposed on them by this bill. The embryonic debate is further flawed by the conflation of all the groups who have nothing but penury and vulnerability in common. I think they should all be treated separately but one on Purnell's big ideas is a one size fits all system.
Single parents are being asked to go to work when their youngest child is five (up from three by intervention of sweet Teresa May and Purnell made an instant vicious attack on May saying she had promised Tory support for all his measures.)
Unemployed people with time limits and sanctions for not finding work.
Sick people being processed through a new private industry of 'health care providers' and 'back to work porviders' with the most ridiculous set of criteria that are 'can do'. The opinion of your own doctor means nothing, they plan to pass 80% of sick people as fit to be processed by forced activity and sanctions. The inhumanity and ignorance of this part of the bill is beyond belief.
I worry most about the sick and in particular those with mental health issues. When I ask around in the pub if people agree with this new regime of sanctions most people say - yes - there are lots of scroungers and scammers - these people need forcing off benefits. They seem to think that lots of people are illegally coming to this country and then claiming lavish benefits. The idea that there is lots of fraud is firmly planted in the zeitgeist. Everyone I talk to thinks the government will put sanctions on scammers and clear up the system and they say that no one minds paying benefits to the genuinely sick. If only this was what was happening.
I have been looking at this bill in detail for months and supporting people with mental health problems who are being called in and processed and my opinion is that the tests are ridiculous - the targets are ridiculous and that the people on the list being called in and processed and treated as criminals are the genuinely sick.
People do want fraud cleared up. All the fraud that they think exists whether it does or not. Set up a fraud detection system. No one minds that.
But what has fraud got to do with the claims of genuinely sick people. People who are being treated by the NHS as sick, have CPNs and psychiatrists assigned to them, are being given expensive medication. How many of them are really perfectly well? Almost none.
The system that processes genuinely sick people should be there to support genuinely sick people and it should be respectful and humane. Genuinely sick people should not end up as collateral damage while the DWP conducts a surge or purge to flush out malingerers. Most serious and enduring illness is an easily established fact. Why can't they accept a diagnosis of schizophrenia as a fact.
There are cases of people with schizophrenia, depression, anorexia who try to present to the world as good as they can be. They want to go down to the benefits office and talk about finding work. They know they are vulnerable to relapse for the rest of their life but they want to try and keep well and they want to feel safe to try and work.
Under this system of sanctions sick people saying they want to try to work is a signal to the welfare providers to mark them as fit for work and put conditions and sanctions on them. If they offered help and left it to the sick people to try - that would be humane. Threatening sick people who are already battling serious conditions every day of their lives is incredibly cruel. The collateral damage here is astounding.
on 08 June 2009, 10:49:22 PM
To begin with how about stopping benefits in cash or kind to those who are not legally in this country.
Then remove those who are not legally here.
What is the response of Compass readers?
on 08 June 2009, 2:49:01 PM
What is the rational for such benefits? Housing benefit makes up the difference between the housing they need to live and the housing they can afford. It means that whatever else, people will have somewhere to live.
If that is the case, what makes an MP a better class of human being that they deserve more money for their houses? Both are being provided with money for a house, one because they cannot afford it, and the other because their obligation to their job requires it. This difference implies a difference in how the funding is qualified for, not in it's result.
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